Debating an atheist on the street

Hello dear blog readers,

Just yesterday I happened to arrive a half hour early for a Bible study in town. Wanting to get some exercise I went walking down the neighborhood. The streets were long enough, so it happened to fill out my half hour. Right before I started I noticed a man about fifty leaving his house with his two ten-year old kids on bikes.

On my way back to the Bible study I was stopped by the man who I asked if I was the man with the car with all these -provocative- bumper stickers on them. Notably: “Gay genes don’t get passed on – homosexuality is a sin”, and: “Hosni MuBarack Saddam Hussein Obama bin Laden”.

I use these bumper stickers to get attention and make people think. Especially liberals, to challenge their reigning worldview.

Well, the man turned out to be a liberal atheist, so when I answered in the affirmative, he immediately opened fire on me. He demanded how I could put put such “hateful” words on my bumper sticker. I replied simply that that was what the Bible said, and that God created mankind male and female, and that homosexuality was an aberration of God’s original design. Gay couples break up at a larger rate than straight people, BTW. The atheist could not fathom that I would bring up such a thing as sin, yet people break the Commandments daily. It just didn’t occur to him that the two female Muslim members of the House of Representatives hurl insults at Christians, not even stopping at mocking vice president Mike Pence for his evangelical faith. Some atheists can be real fowl-mouthed and this atheist cussed my religion out at least three times during our fifteen minute verbal duel. In front of his own kids…

Things turned to matters concerning the truthfulness of the Bible. Using the knowledge that I had learned in apologetics class I made a point to the atheist that as skeptic, he knows nothing. If a skeptic is truly consistent, he will take his skepticism to the very logical end and doubt everything. Thus, the atheist knows virtually nothing. As Rene Descartes said, “I think therefore I am”. What Descartes meant by this is that an observer can doubt everything that he sees, hears or touches. The only one thing he cannot doubt is that his mind is somehow turned on and working. The only thing he knows is that he exists. Pathetic, as some atheists would say… The atheist is like a man who has locked himself out of the house of knowledge and thrown the key away. How so? Because this house is the house of God, and all knowledge starts with the fear of God. Only God can know everything. Only God can be objective. Only God knows and sees things as they really are. That is why we as humans can benefit from the truth that God imparts to us in His Word, the Bible. Atheists suffer in darkness, Christ followers have the light.

Things turned to the matter of abortion. The atheist brought up the worn out argument that it’s the woman’s choice. Not so, because you as a human were always you from conception. As such nobody has any right to interfere with the baby’s life from that point forward. Imagine, the womb is the most dangerous place to be in this world. More babies are aborted than soldiers on the battlefield. Without abortion, there would be half a billion Americans. In order to have a stable, future society, we need reproducing families. We cannot achieve this with homosexual couples, or with people who abort other Americans. Abortion is anti-American.

The atheist brought up the idea that “religion” is all about control, and that without religion we’d all be free. I reminded the atheist about his own religious beliefs, namely that he believes that nature is everything (which he accepts by faith because he can’t prove it). To me this smacked of the Communists endeavors some fifty-sixty years ago to liquidate religion in the former (and not-so-former such as North Korea) Communist countries. I told him that if we were to do away with all religion, we’d have to exterminate every single person on the planet, atheists included. Good show. How’s that for a self-goal.

And all I did was say that homosexuality was a sin…

Creationism is, in fact science

Article on creation science posted July 22, 2018 in the San Antonio Express-News:

Re: “As logic, science come under attack, push back with facts,” Another View by John Blanton, Feb. 11:

John Blanton, a member of the Freethinkers Association of Central Texas, paints what he calls religious people as opponents of reason and free thought. Specifically, he cites creationists on a wide spectrum challenging established science.

First of all, it is a well-known fact that science did not begin with Darwin, whose 209th birthday was being celebrated by FACT. Rather, science has its origin within the Christian church, with the command from God to “be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth” (Genesis 1:28). In order to subdue nature, one must understand it — hence the biblical injunction to pursue science.

Second of all, because it cannot be directly observed or verified, macro-level evolution cannot be considered to be a fact, however strong FACT would insist that it is. Explanations are offered only as to how species could have evolved. Lacking is the exact, precise demonstration that organisms did evolve. Thus evolution is only a theory.

Furthermore, it should never be a crime to question the authority of a well-nigh monolithic theory, which thousands of Ph.D.-level scientists such as I call into question based on scientific evidence. Blanton should remember that in 1925 the American Civil Liberties Union argued for equal representation of evolutionary theory during the Scopes trial, to which he referred. One voice openly questioning evolutionary theory should become millions, since half the population of the United States doesn’t accept evolution. An open public debate between creationism and evolution leads to more healthy science. Offering always only one side of the story leads to bad science and bad explanations.

Blanton cannot see the forest because of the trees. Blanton’s religion is materialistic naturalism, stemming from Jean-Jacques Rousseau’s idea that nature is everything that was, is and ever shall be, purposefully excluding God and the divine from the grand picture a priori. How can you be open-minded if you’re willing to consider only one line of explanation? Taken to the logical extreme, skeptics must doubt everything. Thus, truly, like Descartes they know next nothing. But God knows everything.

Creationism is scientific. Atheists acknowledge the fact that why the universe came into existence is a metaphysical question. Thus whether the universe came about either through natural or supernatural means is an open question. Therefore, since the origin of the universe has not been observed by a human eye, it is certainly possible that God created it. And, in such a supernaturally created world, it is possible to pursue origins science. Creationism doesn’t claim to be privy to the supernatural process of divine creation. Rather, creation science studies the handiwork of God’s creative acts. God created, therefore, let us examine the created world.

It is a well-known fact that thousands of so-called living fossils exist all over the world, resisting change over long periods of time. Taxonomists have discovered and studied millions of species, which all cluster into disjunct kinds that are spoken of in Genesis 1:21. Missing links are still missing. The scientific literature is chock-full of examples of genetic structures being “evolutionarily conserved,” an oxymoron if there ever was one. Genome reduction in organisms is so pervasive that researchers Yuri Wolf and Eugene Koonin in 2013 devised the biphasic model of genomic evolution whereby the genomes of organisms undergo initial rapid (miraculous) complexification, followed by gradual genome reduction, which is itself contrary to evolution.

Thus instead of trying to extinguish other opinions and points of view, so-called freethinkers should allow them to flourish.

Matthew Cserhati is a bioinformatics programmer living in San Antonio. He has a doctorate in biology and a bachelor’s degree in computer science. He has been active in the creation/evolution debate for 17 years and has presented on this subject numerous times.

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