Analysis of Hovind-Jones debate “Is evolution compatible with the Bible?” January 1, 2019

Analysis of the Hovind-Jones debate (Is evolution compatible with the Bible) on January 1, 2019

Michael Jones of Inspiring Philosophy interprets the days of Genesis 1 as part of a seven-day inauguration of the universe by God, whereby He sets everything into their proper function. God stepped into a chaotic universe, and made order out of it. You claim that Genesis 1 states that when God had started creating things (b’reshit), he set everything in the universe into its proper function (barah).

I cross-checked Genesis 1:1 with Exodus 20:11, which reads in English as follows: For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore, the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. It is interesting to note here that the verb denoted here in bold is not barah (which Jones claims does not mean to create), but asah, which means to make. Hebrew verbs can take up multiple meanings, and depend on context. Thus, Hovind’s interpretation is correct.

Let us look at Genesis 1 in Hebrew: B’reshit barah Elohim et shamayim v’et ha’aretz. I contend that this sentence does indeed mean that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Let us look at the word b’reshit. Jones claims that since the word lacks the definite article, thereby it means “in the time”, when God was creating the heavens and the earth, which does not mean an absolute beginning.

I still disagree. In Hebrew based on context sometimes the definite article may be missing from in front of a word, yet it may still denote a definite subject. I contend that b’reshit still means in the beginning, the absolute beginning. This is because Hebrew, as opposed to English not an analytic type of language. In English we have to declare the definite or indefinite article in order to exactly define a noun or a word. But Hebrew is a different language where this is not necessarily so. There are other languages where not putting the definite article still denotes a definite noun.

Hungarian is such a language. In Hungarian, Genesis 1:1 reads: Kezdetben teremtette Isten a mennyet és a földet. Literally: Beginning.in created God the heaven and the earth. Hungarian even has a -t suffix after nouns which, similar to Hebrew, denote that a noun is an object, like how in Hebrew the word et points to a noun which is an object. Hungarian and Hebrew bear uncanny similarities with one another.

Furthermore, another main problem I have with Jones’ argumentation is this: the title of the debate was Is evolution compatible with the Bible? I noticed that Jones avoided addressing the question. But this was the whole point of the debate. To me it seems that Jones took pains to disprove the young-earth six-day literal interpretation of Genesis. Now, that is one thing, and Jones did try to argue for this, but didn’t follow through in actually demonstrating that biological evolution, however generally defined, is compatible with the Bible.

One must agree, that in a general sense, evolution is, quite simply put, descent via modification. That means that if you have a long chain of organisms, A1, A2, A3, … Bn-2, Bn-1, Bn, where A denotes a species of one kind, and B a species of another kind, there will be somewhere in the middle of this chain a pair of individuals Am-B1 such that A begets B. Thus, we have an instance where kind begets non-kind, however, this contradicts Genesis 1 which states that fruits, grasses, birds and sea creatures all multiply according to their kind. Hovind did demonstrate that what evolution says and what Genesis 1 are in contradiction with each other. Jones ceded this point, thus Hovind won the debate.

Another passage from Scripture also proves this point even further. According to 1Corinthians 15:38-39, “But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body. All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.”

This means that all biological beings did not originate from the same original primordial cell billions of years ago. This means that God created different kinds of animals, fish and birds, with its own body, its own flesh. These kinds are separate from one another. Furthermore, God defined, created each body as He pleases, not according to a blind, materialistic process. How can you square an ongoing materialistic evolutionary process with creation within a set time-frame? Evolution is ongoing even now, yet God finished creating the universe in the past. Even Jones’ position claims that God first created, then inaugurated. It is clearly a contradiction.

Another major point that needs to be mentioned is that to me it seems that Jones was trying to demonstrate that God created chaos, at least in the very beginning, and that death and suffering were present in God’s good creation. But God is a God of love and of life, not of death. If death is natural, do you think that people will pass away and die in heaven? Is this a prospect one should be looking forward to? Did God really create the chaotic universe, which was without form and void? Is God sloppy? God’s work reflects upon His character. No, God is not sloppy, but then this implies that God did not create the universe, and therefore we’d be left with a dualist view of the world at best (where God and the devil are co-equal with each other, a rather horrible prospect), materialism at worst.

Because of these considerations there had to be a literal, physical fall into sin, which explains the origin of suffering and death, which is the reason Jesus came to earth, to save us from our sins.

The debate’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/events/279783962679208/permalink/281918972465707/

A spiritual message from the book of Numbers

Numbers 21:4-9

And they journeyed from mount Hor by the way of the Red sea, to compass the land of Edom: and the soul of the people was much discouraged because of the way. And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people,and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord,and against thee; pray unto the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us.And Moses prayed for the people. And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that everyone that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

Many times in the book of Numbers we read about the complaints and the murmurings of the Israelites against Moses and God. As we can see here, they long to go back to Egypt, where they had food and drink enough to be satisfied. Instead, they are thirsting and hungering as they follow Moses through the wilderness. Some speak up against Moses and against God. They are discontent, they do not believe that God can provide for them. They have forgotten that in Egypt they were slaves and an oppressed people. They do not look upon the fact that God is leading them to Canaan, the Promised Land, a land flowing with milk and honey.

Therefore, the Lord sends fiery  snakes upon the people, who bite them and injure them greatly. This causes their murmuring to abate, and they repent. Moses makes a serpent of brass, and whoever looks upon it will be healed of their sin. All they have to do is merely look upon the serpent and they shall be healed. (they merely looked upon the serpent not to as an aid in remembering any one person like in Roman Catholic theology) Likewise, in the Gospel, all you have to do is look upon Christ, and you shall be saved. The story of the fiery serpent has a parallel in John 3:14-16:

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Let us remember, when Jesus says:“Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart:and ye shall find rest unto your souls.” (Matthew 11:28-29)

What does this mean for us? We are the church which wanders in the wilderness. Though we may be oppressed,marginalized, mocked by every television show out there, and not have the niceties of the world, still, we have the Lord, Who is our greatest resource.He provides for us and gives us what we need, and lets us not be tempted more than what we can bear. God brought us out of sin (out of Egypt), and is leading us into His Kingdom (symbolized by Canaan). He has chosen us to be His people.He will be our God, and we shall be His people, and He will walk among us, even if it be by His Holy spirit here on earth.

Therefore let our souls not be troubled but let us have faith and take strength to walk the good walk with the Lord. Amen.

Creationism is, in fact science

Article on creation science posted July 22, 2018 in the San Antonio Express-News:

Re: “As logic, science come under attack, push back with facts,” Another View by John Blanton, Feb. 11:

John Blanton, a member of the Freethinkers Association of Central Texas, paints what he calls religious people as opponents of reason and free thought. Specifically, he cites creationists on a wide spectrum challenging established science.

First of all, it is a well-known fact that science did not begin with Darwin, whose 209th birthday was being celebrated by FACT. Rather, science has its origin within the Christian church, with the command from God to “be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth” (Genesis 1:28). In order to subdue nature, one must understand it — hence the biblical injunction to pursue science.

Second of all, because it cannot be directly observed or verified, macro-level evolution cannot be considered to be a fact, however strong FACT would insist that it is. Explanations are offered only as to how species could have evolved. Lacking is the exact, precise demonstration that organisms did evolve. Thus evolution is only a theory.

Furthermore, it should never be a crime to question the authority of a well-nigh monolithic theory, which thousands of Ph.D.-level scientists such as I call into question based on scientific evidence. Blanton should remember that in 1925 the American Civil Liberties Union argued for equal representation of evolutionary theory during the Scopes trial, to which he referred. One voice openly questioning evolutionary theory should become millions, since half the population of the United States doesn’t accept evolution. An open public debate between creationism and evolution leads to more healthy science. Offering always only one side of the story leads to bad science and bad explanations.

Blanton cannot see the forest because of the trees. Blanton’s religion is materialistic naturalism, stemming from Jean-Jacques Rousseau’s idea that nature is everything that was, is and ever shall be, purposefully excluding God and the divine from the grand picture a priori. How can you be open-minded if you’re willing to consider only one line of explanation? Taken to the logical extreme, skeptics must doubt everything. Thus, truly, like Descartes they know next nothing. But God knows everything.

Creationism is scientific. Atheists acknowledge the fact that why the universe came into existence is a metaphysical question. Thus whether the universe came about either through natural or supernatural means is an open question. Therefore, since the origin of the universe has not been observed by a human eye, it is certainly possible that God created it. And, in such a supernaturally created world, it is possible to pursue origins science. Creationism doesn’t claim to be privy to the supernatural process of divine creation. Rather, creation science studies the handiwork of God’s creative acts. God created, therefore, let us examine the created world.

It is a well-known fact that thousands of so-called living fossils exist all over the world, resisting change over long periods of time. Taxonomists have discovered and studied millions of species, which all cluster into disjunct kinds that are spoken of in Genesis 1:21. Missing links are still missing. The scientific literature is chock-full of examples of genetic structures being “evolutionarily conserved,” an oxymoron if there ever was one. Genome reduction in organisms is so pervasive that researchers Yuri Wolf and Eugene Koonin in 2013 devised the biphasic model of genomic evolution whereby the genomes of organisms undergo initial rapid (miraculous) complexification, followed by gradual genome reduction, which is itself contrary to evolution.

Thus instead of trying to extinguish other opinions and points of view, so-called freethinkers should allow them to flourish.

Matthew Cserhati is a bioinformatics programmer living in San Antonio. He has a doctorate in biology and a bachelor’s degree in computer science. He has been active in the creation/evolution debate for 17 years and has presented on this subject numerous times.

Commentary on John 14:1-18

In preparation for prayer meeting… July 22, 2018

John 14:1-18

1-3: In these verses Jesus calls His disciples to have faith before their trial, since soon Jesus must face the cross. Verses 2-3 teach us about he assurance of our salvation. This is the greatest gift that we can ever receive. Just like in Luke 20:10 Jesus tells His disciples that they should rejoice not that the spirits submit themselves to the disciples, but rather that their names are written in the book of life. Jesus says that there are many mansions (not just rooms), where He will come to gather His people. Projecting forward to the end of time that where He is, there will we also be.

4-7: Jesus tells His disciples that they also know where He is going and that they also know they way. However, Thomas displays his hardness of understanding of where and in what way Jesus is going. In verse 6 Jesus says one of the most profound statements of the Gospels. Jesus is the truth, the life, and the way. He is the Alpha and the Omega (Rev. 1:8), the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Jesus was with the Father at creation (John 1), but He will also be there at the end. He is also the Way. Following Jesus is the way. That is why Jesus also commands His disciples to do His commandments, if they truly love Him. One can only know God by knowing Jesus, the Son. If we have seen Jesus, we have also seen the Father. There is no salvation outside of Jesus. But Jesus is enough, to get us through from the beginning to the end. Jesus is the way, and the only way.

8-12: Now it is Phillip’s turn to express his hardness of understanding and doubt. He also does not understand how Jesus is the way. Jesus deals with Phillip’s little faith just as He did when John the Baptist was doubting in prison. Just as in Mt. 11:5 Jesus mentions the works that the Father has done through Him (the lame walk, the blind see, etc.). God has done so many wonderful things since the beginning of time that we have no reason to doubt or to have fear. The one who believes in Jesus shall do even greater things than what He has done on earth. Calvin explains it this way, that after He ascends into Heaven He shall continue to work (e.g. at Pentecost, Acts 2), through His believers, diffused through the church.

13-15: Jesus reassures us that whatsoever we ask in His name, He shall give to us. This He does do that the Father may be glorified in the Son. We must have faith that God will give us our requests, because He is more than willing to help His people in whatever need they have. However, as verse 15 points out, we must ask it with an obedient heart. God will not bless rebellion, He will not bless the greedy who look upon Him only as a slot machine. We must first seek the kingdom of God, and then all these things will be added unto us (Mt. 6:33).

16-18: Lastly Jesus speaks more word of comfort. Namely that He will leave not leave us by ourselves but will leave another Comforter. Just as the son of God comforts us by His sacrifice on the cross, so will the other Comforter be with us, and will abide with us forever. He is the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of truth, Who will guide us unto all truth (John 18:38). Again, Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, the way, the truth and the life. In all these verses we can see how the three persons of the Trinity, Father, Son and Holy spirit all work together to comfort and guide God’s people.

With this testimony and great reason for trust in God, let us now turn to Him in prayer and ask humbly, yet boldly for our needs.

Brief history of Communism in Hungary (1949-1989)

On the occasion of debating LB 975 in the Nebraska State Legislature, I would like to briefly enlighten you about the history of atheist-style Communism in Eastern Europe between 1949 and 1989. My parents fled the Communist system that was established by force in a sham election a few years after World War II in Hungary. The Communist system had already ravaged the Soviet Union with a great famine in the Ukraine, claiming the lives of 5 million people. This was due to a failed five year plan where the Communists thought that they would be able to dictate to the laws of nature. This Communist system was established in a bloody revolution in 1917, by Lenin, a man who never worked in his life but expected masses of factory workers to work instead.

The Communist system is responsible for the deaths of over 100 million people in the time span of about a single century. That is about one third of the population of the United States. Many of the victims were Chinese under Mao Tse-Tung, where they are still finding graves and remains of people who were killed during the bloody era of Communism. Even today the population of North Korea is suffering under Kim Jong-un, where in some places the population of this country are forced to eat leaves. There are hardly any cars on the streets. If you look at North Korea on a night map you can see the boundary between it and South Korea since there are no lights in North Korea at night. They perform operations using infusion fluid in beer bottles in this country.

During Communism in Hungary people could easily be exported for speaking out against the Communist government. A group of 40 Reformed Christian pastors were whisked off to Siberia just because they wrote a letter to Joseph Stalin telling him to repent from his murders. Living conditions, of course in the Gulag Archipelago were downright unbearable. One out of only every three workers in Hungary was an administrator, the efficiency of the Communist system was simply that low. People lived like slaves in that system. They mass murdered hundreds of people at Kossuth Square on October 23, 1956. Many people were detained and executed after the Revolution sadly failed. This is what my own parents fled from. People were hanged up until 1985. The Communists tortured people like how they did in the Inquisition. They forced rods of glass up the penises of men and broke them. They also made people stand in rooms full of water and when they came out, they peeled their skins off like a glove. They also forced people to stand upright for days on end in a very tight small room with spikes on the wall and a light shining in their eyes so they couldn’t sleep.

Communism is responsible for the massive deterioration that happened in Eastern Europe for 40 years. In Romania for example they still were going around in horse driven carts in the middle of the 1990’s. 20 years ago half of all Hungarians didn’t even have a car, even today all over the country there are dilapidated, crumbling buildings that they weren’t able to renovate after 1990, the fall of Communism. My grandfather knew 12 Finno-Ugric languages, he was a professor of linguistics. He gave presentations in Ann Arbor during Communism. When he went back the Communist secret service harassed him so much it helped him towards an early death.

 

These are the sins of Communism which have not yet been resolved, not even today.

 

Atheists declare that simple molecules such as amino acids are forms of early life. Yet they fail to recognize that a fetus is a living human being with full rights and therefore deserves to be protected. Yet a Holocaust of 50 million innocent children, including many black babies has occurred ever since Roe vs Wade in 1973. This is more than 10 times the number of soldiers who died during America’s wars. This means that it is 10 times more dangerous to be in the womb than out on the battlefield.

 

I do hope you get the time to read the free book I sent you by Richard Wurmbrand, Tortured for Christ. He suffered for 14 years in Communist prisons in Romania. Among other things they slit his throat, starved him, and almost killed him several times juts because he believed in Jesus Christ.

 

“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:5

 

Dr. Matthew Cserhati